Three Generations Of Actresses Reflect On Hollywood, Harassment — And Hitchcock

Tippi Hedren, with her daughter Melanie Griffith and granddaughter Dakota Johnson during a 2015 event.

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Tippi Hedren, with her daughter Melanie Griffith and granddaughter Dakota Johnson during a 2015 event.

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In 1963, Alfred Hitchcock had a outrageous volume of energy in Hollywood. That’s when he plucked singer Tippi Hedren from relations shade to star in his new movie, The Birds. It was a large mangle for Hedren.

But she says that over a march of creation that film — and another movie, Marnie — Hitchcock regularly disturbed her. She writes in her discourse Tippi that he disturbed her; he would expostulate by her residence during all hours, glance during her, and send her baskets of food when he disturbed she was losing weight. He threatened to harm her career, gripping her underneath agreement and refusing to let her work.

“Nobody had any genuine answer for how we was going to solve a problem,” Hedren says. “Alma, his wife, she pronounced ‘I’m so contemptible we have to have to go by this. we said, ‘Well, can’t we stop it?’ we was angry, and we was harm that we had nobody to contend OK, we’ll assistance you.”

For Tippi Hedren, Hitchcock's Scares Came Off-Screen

Women Are Speaking Up About Harassment And Abuse, But Why Now?

In a weeks given passionate nuisance allegations opposite Harvey Weinstein were initial done public, a party attention — along with several other industries — has been reflecting on how a energy energetic between group during a tip and a women they work with has been personification out. Actresses like Hedren have forked out that this is zero new in Hollywood; it’s usually now only entrance to light.

Hedren is a mama of a line of obvious Hollywood actresses. Her daughter is Melanie Griffith, and her granddaughter is Dakota Johnson.

So NPR’s All Things Considered brought all 3 of them together, to speak about their practice in a attention and plead how being a lady in Hollywood has — and hasn’t — altered opposite a generations.

Interview Highlights

On a parallels between Hitchcock and Weinstein

Johnson: It’s utterly similar, to all of a allegations opposite Harvey, and also a lot of other men. But it’s also kind of this uncanny underbelly of Hollywood that’s been there forever, though a light is being shone on it.

Hedren: And it’s about time.

Johnson: And it is about time, though that’s a other thing, is like, there’s all these allegations going around each day it’s a new person, though it’s roughly as if it’s apropos redundant, and a chairman who is during error is irrelevant. I’m some-more meddlesome in what a resolution is.

Johnson, on removing recommendation from her father

Johnson: My father said, Dakota we need to be a wolf, not a lamb. And we was like, okay, good afterwards that’s a partial of me that is going to be labeled as a dog or cold, only since if I’m a lady being blunt or I’m saying, “No, we don’t like that” or “No, I’m not doing that,” afterwards I’m radically unmanageable, and I’m out of control.

Griffith: A problem.

Hedren: No, you’re smart.

Johnson: Right, right though in comparison to only a fact that I’m a woman.

On either passionate nuisance is finale in Hollywood

Johnson: we consider it’s stopping. we consider a lot of group are maybe holding register of their lives and their careers … And we consider that dudes are going to be unequivocally clever with when and where and how they take meetings with immature women. we consider that’s a beginning, that’s a start of it. But it is a lot of, we know, a immature singer going to have meetings with producers and studio heads who are predominately male. Still.

Hedren: Let’s wish for a day when a lady will come out of a business assembly and say, we know what? He didn’t make a pass during me.

Griffith: we feel for women who, once they’re following their passion in propagandize — let’s contend somebody wants to be a scientist and she goes into work and is intimately harassed, and she quits her pursuit since she can’t hoop it. And she doesn’t get to be a scientist in her life — she doesn’t get to follow her passion since of that. That is what we need to arise adult against, we think. Make it fine to follow your dreams and make it not fine for people to vanquish them.

This story was edited and constructed for a radio by Kat Lonsdorf and Connor Donevan; Lonsdorf and Petra Mayer blending it for a web.