ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST:
Senator Dan Sullivan sits on a Armed Services Committee. He’s an Alaska Republican. Sullivan was an partner secretary of state during a George W. Bush administration, during that time he worked on sanctions. And he’s been a censor of a Iran chief deal. Senator, acquire to a program.
DAN SULLIVAN: Good to be here, Robert. Thanks.
SIEGEL: Earlier this year, we pronounced that President Trump should let a Iran understanding destroy on a own. Are we now going serve than that, observant it should be announced a disaster and sanctions should be imposed straightaway?
SULLIVAN: Well, indeed we didn’t contend he should let it destroy on a own. we pronounced he should energetically make it. And that’s still my position. we consider that, we know, roughly before a ink was dry, Iran was clearly violating a suggestion and we consider a minute of many elements of a agreement. So to keep U.S. leadership, we consider we shouldn’t travel divided from it. We should energetically make it. Try to get a parties in Iran to scold a violations. And if not, afterwards take action, including a probability of snapback sanctions like Secretary Kerry and President Obama talked about.
SIEGEL: But a authority of a Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joe Dunford, told your cabinet this week that Iran, in his difference now, is not in element crack of a agreement. And he pronounced that he thinks gripping a agreement is in America’s inhabitant confidence interests. What’s your respond to General Dunford?
SULLIVAN: Well, look. As we can imagine, we have a lot of honour for General Dunford, General Mattis. I’m not certain accurately what he means by element breach, though we trust that Iran is clearly defying a suggestion and minute and vigilant of a chief deal. And again, we consider a boss should take a care position of indicating that out to all a parties, including Iran, where they’re violating it and say, we have a event to heal a violations. And if we don’t, afterwards we’re going to take actions pursuant to a agreement, that would embody snapback sanctions.
SIEGEL: But only to pursue what competence be being in element crack and not being in element breach, we have combined about some Iranian actions we contend are violations of a deal. But has Iran changed any closer to carrying a chief arms given this understanding to took effect?
SULLIVAN: Well, look. we consider a whole – we don’t know a answer to that, to be ideally honest. But we consider when we demeanour during a broader issue, there is a transparent violation, for example, of a volume of complicated H2O that they were authorised underneath a agreement. There’s a tie with regards to a ballistic barb contrast that they’ve been endeavour in defilement of U.N. Security Council Resolution 2231.
So a agreement can’t only be looked during only only from a design of, have they pierce brazen some-more closely with courtesy to chief weapons? It needs to be looked during in terms of a altogether suggestion and what they committed to do. And Robert, on a series of things, what they committed to do, they’ve already violated.
SIEGEL: But Secretary of State – former Secretary of State Kerry has combined about negotiating this deal. And initial he said, we know, what we unequivocally can understanding with, what unequivocally was obligatory here was a chief program. We have lots of other disagreements. We have many other problems with Iran. But this was a one that there was extended accord among a other members of a Security Council to address. And so, yeah, it doesn’t cover each other issue. It deals with a chief program. Isn’t that what it’s all about?
SULLIVAN: Well, though again, it’s not only a violations that I’ve had problems with with courtesy to a agreement. It’s a altogether structure of a agreement. Remember; even if Iran is totally abiding by all elements of this chief deal, by a finish of a decade, even reduction if they’ve complied with it, a agreement roughly allows them to legally be on a threshold of being partial of a village of nations that have chief weapons. we consider carrying another brute militant regime on a verge of carrying chief weapons is not in a seductiveness of a United States. It was one of a large flaws of a deal. And right now they’re display that they’re not in correspondence with it.
SIEGEL: Senator Sullivan, appreciate we really most for articulate with us today.
SULLIVAN: Thank, we Robert.
SIEGEL: That’s Senator Dan Sullivan, Republican of Alaska.
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